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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantEdwinK
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Why do people insist on changing SRP to 0, when there is a SRP already in the field. I've locked that part of the profiles, so no harm done, it just annoys me when people do that.
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What is their justification for the change?

It would be the rare disc that was available only (or originally) for free.

If it is a child profile from a box set the children generally should have an SRP of 0.00 (0,00) while the parent profile would have the SRP paid for the set.  (This is convention, i see nothing in the rules actually requiring it.)
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I don't know the justification for it. Just noticed it with a profile refresh.
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It MIGHT be because in some localities (including The Netherlands) it is very hard to unequivocally establish the correct SRP, if this has not been done on or near the release date. E.g. most Dutch webshops will list a "fantasy" SRP, merely to give you the impression you're getting a good deal with them. And then there are users who will contribute what THEY paid for a release as if it were the SRP.

Any of these two situations might constitute a valid reason to "reset" the SRP, even without knowing what the correct SRP is (or rather: was at the time of release).

Practices with SRP in localities like NL are very different from those in the US or even UK.
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In some localities, there is no SRP (ie. Hong Kong).  Often times, someone will put in a US$ SRP for Hong Kong DVD that they got from US retailers, but this is wrong.  Ideally there should be an option for null entry rather than 0.
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I don't know why this happens: I nearly never change a SRP, but often at a contribution the program shows I would change the SRP to 0. And I'm very sure this happened not because of a not released update, so this is weird.

Perhaps some users don't think about and flag all fields, so the change to 0 happens.
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In some localities, there is no SRP (ie. Hong Kong).  Often times, someone will put in a US$ SRP for Hong Kong DVD that they got from US retailers, but this is wrong.  Ideally there should be an option for null entry rather than 0.


+1. It would be great if there were a little checkbox next to the SRP that allowed you to gray the box out (like the checkbox next to collection number in the Personalize field).  Or just for those localities, like Hong Kong, make it automatically grayed out.
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That's interesting, xradman. That's the first time I have ever heard that fact/reasoning/explanation before.

I can easily believe tweeter's "boxed set" theory as well because I do the exact same thing. If I have a boxed set where even the DVDs have unique UPCs and were likely sold individually at one point, I still zero them out and lock the SRP.
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It MIGHT be because in some localities (including The Netherlands) it is very hard to unequivocally establish the correct SRP, if this has not been done on or near the release date. E.g. most Dutch webshops will list a "fantasy" SRP, merely to give you the impression you're getting a good deal with them. And then there are users who will contribute what THEY paid for a release as if it were the SRP.

Any of these two situations might constitute a valid reason to "reset" the SRP, even without knowing what the correct SRP is (or rather: was at the time of release).

Practices with SRP in localities like NL are very different from those in the US or even UK.


I rather like an estimation of the SRP in the time of release than a setting to 0. But that's just my personal opinion.
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Would be near impossible to document, Corne, so I don't think it belongs in the online.
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Well, in some cases there ard old press releases with srp (on dvd.nl, dvd-home.nl, dvdinfo.be etc.) or postings of srp's on Dutch dvd forums. There are other similar releases released at the same time with a known srp or parallel releases across Europe. Shops can create their own srp here so a real srp is relative.
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Why do people insist on changing SRP to 0, when there is a SRP already in the field. I've locked that part of the profiles, so no harm done, it just annoys me when people do that.

Edwin:

It all depends. Usually a $0.00 SRP marks a title as part of Boxset, SOMETIMES, the  free standing copy is released at the same time or even BEFORE the Boxset in which case the Free standing SRP should be used Online. But sometimes the free stander is released AFTER the Boxset...in which case the SRP relative to the Online should remain set at ZERO, since the Boxset was released FIRST.
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Would be near impossible to document, Corne, so I don't think it belongs in the online.

Not necessarily, deejay
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IMHO the online should deal with data and facts, not with estimates. The old press releases Corne was referring to contain facts, not estimates. I'm all right with the press releases, not with the estimates.
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IMHO the online should deal with data and facts, not with estimates. The old press releases Corne was referring to contain facts, not estimates. I'm all right with the press releases, not with the estimates.


But you said it yourself. In The Netherlands there are no real SRP's. The shops can make up SRP's of their own. That's an estimation as well because the DVD distributors don't give much info about SRP. If we're lucky there's a press release but that's rare. Most of the time there's even a difference in SRP between shops. I agree with you that in most cases we must stick to pure data. But in the case of The Netherlands and SRP I don't see a problem in an estimation as long as it is based on something (a similar release in the time of first release, parallel release across Europe in the case of the same distributor, forum posts about the prices).
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At the time of release, the website of the "publisher" will sometimes give you the "real" SRP. I'll take those data over any webshop.

And like you said: I don't see a problem in an estimation as long as it is based on something (a similar release in the time of first release, parallel release across Europe in the case of the same distributor, forum posts about the prices) either. It's the part between brackets that makes the difference to me - it's called documentation.
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