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| Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | So it appears America is now b astardising another British TV show. Shameless. I don't know what the big heads at the top think there doing. Cause every time they try this it fails terribly excepted for maybe The Office. The only shows they have not touched i no for sure are Peep Show and Gavin And Stacy. I could see a very horrible US version of Gavin and Stacy as well set between the US and Canadian border. Seen as i mentioned Peep Show i just like to express how awesome i have found series 7 and the Christmas special shown on Christmas eve. |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | | Last edited: by Kulju |
| | Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
So it appears America is now b astardising another British TV show. Maybe, just maybe, you should blame Paul Abbott as 'America' wouldn't be able to do anything without his permission/participation. That being said, from what I have read, from people who watched the original series and the first episode of this one, is that it is a fairly good homage to the original. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting FilmAlba:
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So it appears America is now b astardising another British TV show.
Maybe, just maybe, you should blame Paul Abbott as 'America' wouldn't be able to do anything without his permission/participation.
That being said, from what I have read, from people who watched the original series and the first episode of this one, is that it is a fairly good homage to the original. Home grown American shows are good because they are built around what is deemed acceptable by TV. But the thing when making a British show into one is that because we are far more edgier over here with what we allow onto our television screens. It gets watered down and just seems out place as it was taken from something more edgier. Nether here nor there. |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
It's going to be PG? I hope they won't touch these, but if they do, I'm sure they find several ways to ruin 'em. One would be to remove nudity, sex, language, violence and polish them "nice". End result would be crappy PG rated piece of shiitake mushroom as usual. |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
This the films? Trilogy was originally a 6 episode 9 hour mini series. Both versions are available on DVD/Blu-ray. 3 part movie trilogy or 6 part (or actually 3*2 episode) miniseries. Each part contains 2 1,5 hour episodes. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
Home grown American shows are good because they are built around what is deemed acceptable by TV. But the thing when making a British show into one is that because we are far more edgier over here with what we allow onto our television screens.
It gets watered down and just seems out place as it was taken from something more edgier. Nether here nor there. Not trying to be insulting, but you really should educate yourself before making generalisations like that. America has two types of TV...regular, over the air, broadcast TV and Cable, have to pay for the service, TV. The former has strict standards as to what is and isn't acceptable. The latter, does not...you can't show hardcore porn, but other than that, just about anything else goes. This allows people to have a choice in what they want to allow into their homes. Shameless is on Showtime, which is a pay TV channel, and is rated TV-MA. If you are interested in forming an educated opinion, here is a 20 minute preview of the first episode, which is NSFW...though I don't know if it will work for you, as you are across the pond. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting FilmAlba:
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Home grown American shows are good because they are built around what is deemed acceptable by TV. But the thing when making a British show into one is that because we are far more edgier over here with what we allow onto our television screens.
It gets watered down and just seems out place as it was taken from something more edgier. Nether here nor there.
Not trying to be insulting, but you really should educate yourself before making generalisations like that. America has two types of TV...regular, over the air, broadcast TV and Cable, have to pay for the service, TV. The former has strict standards as to what is and isn't acceptable. The latter, does not...you can't show hardcore porn, but other than that, just about anything else goes. This allows people to have a choice in what they want to allow into their homes.
Shameless is on Showtime, which is a pay TV channel, and is rated TV-MA. If you are interested in forming an educated opinion, here is a 20 minute preview of the first episode, which is NSFW...though I don't know if it will work for you, as you are across the pond. I was referring to regular TV but your right i have no idea what channels are on regular US and what are on cable lol Our version of cable is called Sky. Most ppl use the Sky plus version. | | | | Last edited: by ShinyDiscGuy |
| | Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Plenty of American adaptations have worked. Besides The Office, there's Life on Mars (well, sort of), All in the Family, Sanford and Son. And that's just British to American TV shows. Showtime rarely makes crap. | | | | Last edited: by Ace_of_Sevens |
| | Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
Quoting FilmAlba:
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It's going to be PG?
I hope they won't touch these, but if they do, I'm sure they find several ways to ruin 'em. One would be to remove nudity, sex, language, violence and polish them "nice". End result would be crappy PG rated piece of shiitake mushroom as usual. Um, I highly doubt a director like David Fincher would do that. A) I would not consider him to be a studio hack and B) he's not exactly a prude and would tone down violence, sex, etc. (see: Fight Club and Se7en especially and even Zodiac). In fact, he's only directed a couple PG-13 rated films (The Social Network and Curious Case of Benjamin Button) while the rest have been rated R. |
| | Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
Plenty of American adaptations have worked. Besides The Office, there's Life on Mars (well, sort of), All in the Family, Sanford and Son. And that's just British to American TV shows. Showtime rarely makes crap. Life on Mars US was decent. But could not hold a candle to the British original. One big reason being Philip Glenister as Gene Hunt was amazing. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
I was referring to regular TV but your right i have no idea what channels are on regular US and what are on cable lol I wasn't sure but, I can tell you that we aren't as prudish as some people seem to think we are. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
I wasn't sure but, I can tell you that we aren't as prudish as some people seem to think we are. I think that much would be obvious from the preview clip. |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting FilmAlba:
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Home grown American shows are good because they are built around what is deemed acceptable by TV. But the thing when making a British show into one is that because we are far more edgier over here with what we allow onto our television screens.
It gets watered down and just seems out place as it was taken from something more edgier. Nether here nor there.
Not trying to be insulting, but you really should educate yourself before making generalisations like that. America has two types of TV...regular, over the air, broadcast TV and Cable, have to pay for the service, TV. The former has strict standards as to what is and isn't acceptable. The latter, does not...you can't show hardcore porn, but other than that, just about anything else goes. This allows people to have a choice in what they want to allow into their homes.
Shameless is on Showtime, which is a pay TV channel, and is rated TV-MA. If you are interested in forming an educated opinion, here is a 20 minute preview of the first episode, which is NSFW...though I don't know if it will work for you, as you are across the pond. The Shield on F/X and Walking Dead on A&E are good examples of violent shows you wouldn't see on network TV and not part of the premium cable package, too. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote:
In fact, he's only directed a couple PG-13 rated films (The Social Network and Curious Case of Benjamin Button) while the rest have been rated R. My point is that in US if you show some skin or say the F-word few times it's R. I just watched Finnish movie Miesten vuoro (Steam of Life). In Finland it's allowed for all ages, but because of continuous full frontal nudity it would be rated R in US. I've never seen a better US remake of relatively new movies. They are always polished one-size-fits-all molded Hollywood puke. Sometimes updated versions of old movies are OK, but if the only reason for remake is because it wasn't originally made in US, it's just stupid. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a lot of US movies but some movies just need correct time, location, style of production, language etc. I enjoy the idea of Americanized version of Män som hatar kvinnor as much as I would like the Swedish version of Godfather. Even the name of the movie (book) has been translated to be "baby proof" that cannot by any mean be offencive for anyone. Unfortunately it almost always look like the remakes are made for babies. I don't mean the amount of violence, nudity etc. it's the style how they are presented. European (for example) style is much more realistic (more unpleasent for eyes/ears). US way is often much more entertaining style. Fight = Ballet, Sex = soft porn in sterile light with L-shaped sheets. I don't want to offend any one, it's just my opinion as the title says; "Why Can't You Just Leave Them Alone". Next to the Blu-ray player goes Kick-Ass and I think I am going to enjoy it. I don't have to wait Finnish remake. |
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