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| Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | I just got my first one today and i really think this is the future. Hopefully lobbyist don't kill this and it starts to take shape this decade cause this could save millions of life's.
And a lot other ppl from having to smell it lol | | | | Last edited: by ShinyDiscGuy |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,380 |
| | Posted: | | | | Was going to buy one, but their illegal here. First they classed them as pharmaceutical drugs (thus making it virtually impossible for the importers to do them the needed tests etc), then they started suing people that ordered them from UK and elsewhere for drug crimes. Sometimes i hate our government so much...
I've tried quitting many times. And figured if i cant do that i should at least "cut the losses" (with e-cig's you only get nicotine, but not the rest of the bad stuff). But that isn't possible anymore here. | | | | Last edited: by whispering |
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| Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting whispering: Quote:
Was going to buy one, but their illegal here. First they classed them as pharmaceutical drugs (thus making it virtually impossible for the importers to do them the needed tests etc), then they started suing people that ordered them from UK and elsewhere for drug crimes. Sometimes i hate our government so much... That surprises me given how socially democratic Finland is. I got mine on offer because of a promotion form the world health organisation they where selling them half price. I instantly packed in on normal cigs. |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting whispering: Quote:
[...] but their illegal here. First they classed them as pharmaceutical drugs (thus making it virtually impossible for the importers to do them the needed tests etc) [...] Honi soit qui mal y Pense ... and that nobody tells me the tobacco industry is protecting it's claims  Unbelievable really, with the same method they could easily outlaw "normal" cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, ... or all other mind-altering products. They don't do it! Ask yourself: Why? | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,380 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
That surprises me given how socially democratic Finland was. I fixed that sentence for you. Our social democracy was sold to the highest bidder and the money was wasted on living large. Now were building up debt that the kids of todays Finland will have to pay. Our grandparents build this country from nothing, and it took our parents little over a decade to ruin it all. Everything is going down, little by little. I just hope its not too late to change the course. |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting whispering: Quote:
Now were building up debt that the kids of todays Finland will have to pay. Lucky you are, Germany and several other countries are already living on the costs of the great-grandchildren of our kids to be. A Trillion + current public debts, my arse, who's ever going to pay that back | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,380 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Silence_of_Lambs: Quote:
Unbelievable really,
with the same method they could easily outlaw "normal" cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, ... or all other mind-altering products.
They don't do it! Ask yourself: Why? Tax  I figured i might just order them anyway, if the packages dont have any company labels ordering inside EU rarely if ever goes through our customs. Quoting Silence_of_Lambs: Quote:
Lucky you are, Germany and several other countries are already living on the costs of the great-grandchildren of our kids to be. A Trillion + current public debts, my arse, who's ever going to pay that back Remember that the economy will always bounce back, and soon you don't have debt at all  On a more serious note, we took large amounts of debt cause we had a huge recession after the fall of Soviet Union and other reasons. Which was understandable. But now, were doing OK and were still taking insane amounts of debt. I know were not yet in the same league as e.g. US, UK or Germany, but for some reason our government wants to copy everything from the "big world". |
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| Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting whispering: Quote:
Quoting Silence_of_Lambs:
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Unbelievable really,
with the same method they could easily outlaw "normal" cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, ... or all other mind-altering products.
They don't do it! Ask yourself: Why?
Tax I figured i might just order them anyway, if the packages dont have any company labels ordering inside EU rarely if ever goes through our customs.
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Lucky you are, Germany and several other countries are already living on the costs of the great-grandchildren of our kids to be. A Trillion + current public debts, my arse, who's ever going to pay that back
Remember that the economy will always bounce back, and soon you don't have debt at all
On a more serious note, we took large amounts of debt cause we had a huge recession after the fall of Soviet Union and other reasons. Which was understandable. But now, were doing OK and were still taking insane amounts of debt. I know were not yet in the same league as e.g. US, UK or Germany, but for some reason our government wants to copy everything from the "big world". Good budget kit. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Electronic-Cigarette-Strength-Marlboro-Cartridges/dp/B003XEU0S2/ref=pd_cp_ce_0 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,380 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
Good budget kit.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Electronic-Cigarette-Strength-Marlboro-Cartridges/dp/B003XEU0S2/ref=pd_cp_ce_0 Thanks, will try it out. Pay day is on monday |
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| Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting whispering: Quote:
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Good budget kit.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Electronic-Cigarette-Strength-Marlboro-Cartridges/dp/B003XEU0S2/ref=pd_cp_ce_0
Thanks, will try it out. Pay day is on monday It's recommended for most ppl to mix it with normal cigs for 3 weeks. I guess this is cause there so mild. Well least the ones i got are lol. But after i got use to it which was very quick it done the job. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,380 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just made an order, but at liberro.co.uk Did some research and few months ago the Finnish Medicines Agency made a new statement on this issue. Now if you buy a pack that contains no more then 0,42g nicotine and one cartridge contains 10mg or less nicotine it can be used as self medication and don't need a prescription (which is impossible to get) The amounts are the same as with e.g. nicorette products. |
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| Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting whispering: Quote:
Just made an order, but at liberro.co.uk
Did some research and few months ago the Finnish Medicines Agency made a new statement on this issue. Now if you buy a pack that contains no more then 0,42g nicotine and one cartridge contains 10mg or less nicotine it can be used as self medication and don't need a prescription (which is impossible to get)
The amounts are the same as with e.g. nicorette products. It's awesome. When as it was Costa today with my pal i was puffing on mine and this women with kid like a few meters away looked at me in shock and one of the staff came up. And i just said it's ok it's electronic. She was a smoker to was very impressed with it. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,380 |
| | Posted: | | | | A little update. I tried it in january, but never really made the switch. Eventually it started collecting dust. ~3 weeks ago had some stomach problems (possibly gastritis or reflux disease), apparently alcohol, coffee and tobacco could have been the cause, so i stopped using all of them for the time i'm on the meds (though with tobacco dont know if its quitting, if i just switched to a less harmful one). So, i have to say, i'm now loving it. It took a little getting used to. But now i can ride to work with my bicycle without couching my lungs out (i usually smoke right before i leave). Though i am a bit worried of the effects it might have, so at least now i'm only buying highly quality liquid made in UK. Rather then the 3 ties cheaper Chinese ones. Though i might switch to the Chinese ones later on. Dekang seems like a proper manufacturer at least. Best of all, winters coming and i don't have to get outside in a 20 C weather every hour EDIT: Also the reason why i first stopped using it, was because of continuous leaking, didn't get anything from it etc. So threw away the cartridges and started direct dripping and voilá, it started working properly. | | | | Last edited: by whispering |
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| Registered: March 26, 2009 |  Posts: 1,387 |
| | Posted: | | | | I got a Chantix Prescription from the Doctor back in January have been smoke free. |
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