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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,796 |
| Posted: | | | | | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own. Ineptocracy, You got to love it. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln |
| | Blair | Resistance is Futile! |
Registered: October 30, 2008 | Posts: 1,249 |
| Posted: | | | | The first time that I saw that was maybe a year before Obama was elected President of the United States. Not to get into a political debate, but I agree it was a bit scary to go back to this site a few mothers after that and see the figures jump. | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 1,982 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote: Interesting Figures No they aren't. Good thing I don't have any child, but I'm kind of scare for the future of my nephews and nieces It isn't really better here The country and the province are in the red since forever (the province must balance his budget each year, but the debt doesn't decrease that much). At least the city where I leave isn't in debt and produce surplus every years without raising the taxes or cutting the services. One out of three is better than nothing... I guess | | | Last edited: by Jimmy S |
| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,460 |
| Posted: | | | | I looked at the source for that HTML page. Seems like a bunch of shockwave movies. I wouldn't panic just yet. It doesn't appear to be real data, just some simulations based on unstated assumptions and source data. Not a political statement - just a "don't trust everything you see on the net" type comment. | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | I don't know where they get their information but, according to the U.S. Treasury, the National Debt, as of 10/28/2011, was $14,937,858,721,060.08. That's pretty close to the number on that site. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | Just like Greece it's the interest that kills. Essentially, if you have to take up new credits just to pay this year's interests then you're stepping on the accelerator to escape from the crash into the wall that's in front of you.
It's like the end phase of Monopoly: If you have to sell your entire light-blue street set to afford the rent on Baordwalk, you'll know you are going to lose, you've just not accepted it yet. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,460 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: I don't know where they get their information but, according to the U.S. Treasury, the National Debt, as of 10/28/2011, was $14,937,858,721,060.08. That's pretty close to the number on that site. Ah, OK. So based on DJ's comment about interest rates, I guess if you validate the base number as of some date, and you know the interest rate and the fraction of the debt that grows on the basis of interest, you can build a simulator. The tricky part is that fraction of the debt that occurs based on actual spending, which maybe you can estimate based on past expenditures and future obligations. | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. | | | Last edited: by mediadogg |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,380 |
| Posted: | | | | Finnish one: http://www.velkakello.fi/The second number is "my share" of the debt, if you want to put it in context. Edit: ...and for the Americans, we separate decimals with a , sign. Not a dot. | | | Last edited: by whispering |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,136 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting whispering: Quote: Edit: ...and for the Americans, we separate decimals with a , sign. Not a dot. Us Brits use the . for decimals you know... | | | Signature? We don't need no stinking... hang on, this has been done... blast [oooh now in Widescreen] Ah... well you see.... I thought I'd say something more interesting... but cannot think of anything..... oh well And to those of you who have disabled viewing of these signature files "hello" (or not) Registered: July 27, 2004 |
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