Isn't this considered political?  Shouldn't it be removed?

Quoting Lord Of The Sith:

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Isn't this considered political?  Shouldn't it be removed?

I do not see anything political to wish that the Mexican Supreme Court gives justice to this woman. Would you find the thread political if your daughter/wife/sister was innocent and sentenced to die in prison?

Quoting Lord Of The Sith:

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Isn't this considered political?  Shouldn't it be removed?

Yes this is political.
Let me throw gas on it.  Who in their right mind would take into consideration what the Catholic Church says.
Their track record of sweeping things under the rug or withholding evidence or fabricating evidence to their benefit, has made them unrealiable.

This is pathetic. I wish to see the life of an innocent human being saved, and people here discuss about it is political or not.

Bye.

Quoting surfeur51:

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I do not see anything political to wish that the Mexican Supreme Court gives justice to this woman. Would you find the thread political if your daughter/wife/sister was innocent and sentenced to die in prison?

How is disagreeing with the Mexican judicial system's conviction of this woman not a political discussion?

I've read opposing articles to this case and while the Mexican Federal Police royally screwed up in appeasing the press by staging this woman's arrest at the ranch, instead of where she and the kidnap leader were actually arrested, the evidence of her complicity was overwhelming. She was identified by the kidnap victims as having actively participated in their kidnappings and she was correctly found guilty in my opinion. In February 2011 the Seventh Circuit Tribunal appeals court upheld her conviction exhausting her final appeal. She'll rot in a Mexican prison, just as she deserves, despite the protestations of the French.

The woman's defense that she was just dating the kidnapper and wasn't aware that the people at the ranch were kidnap victims was pathetic. What did she think they were...houseguests at a Bed and Breakfast   ?

She was sentenced to 3 consecutive life terms, one for each of the victims...60 years plus one. Now the French want her back? No way. If she were to be sent back to France, the maximum she'd serve for her crimes is 20 years, if that. The Mexican government wants her to serve her full sentence as an example of what will happen to other would-be kidnappers in Mexico and I applaud them for standing up to the French government.

Quoting Bad Father:

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Quoting surfeur51:

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I do not see anything political to wish that the Mexican Supreme Court gives justice to this woman. Would you find the thread political if your daughter/wife/sister was innocent and sentenced to die in prison?

How is disagreeing with the Mexican judicial system's conviction of this woman not a political discussion?

I've read opposing articles to this case and while the Mexican Federal Police royally screwed up in appeasing the press by staging this woman's arrest at the ranch, instead of where she and the kidnap leader were actually arrested, the evidence of her complicity was overwhelming. She was identified by the kidnap victims as having actively participated in their kidnappings and she was correctly found guilty in my opinion. In February 2011 the Seventh Circuit Tribunal appeals court upheld her conviction exhausting her final appeal. She'll rot in a Mexican prison, just as she deserves, despite the protestations of the French.

The woman's defense that she was just dating the kidnapper and wasn't aware that the people at the ranch were kidnap victims was pathetic. What did she think they were...houseguests at a Bed and Breakfast   ?

She was sentenced to 3 consecutive life terms, one for each of the victims...60 years plus one. Now the French want her back? No way. If she were to be sent back to France, the maximum she'd serve for her crimes is 20 years, if that. The Mexican government wants her to serve her full sentence as an example of what will happen to other would-be kidnappers in Mexico and I applaud them for standing up to the French government.

Who would have thought that we agree 100%

As I wrote when opening this thread, one of my most important wishes for 2012 was to see the Supreme Court of Mexico, the highest level of the Mexican judicial system, decide Florence's release. In fact, the review of her case has taken more time than originally planned, and the court decision was taken only today.

One hour ago, the court decided to free Florence, recognizing that her trial has been unfair, with many major irregularities. The proceedings of the Court were public and broadcast live on television, and Florence will leave Tepepan prison in the next hours.



Thank you to all reporters and investigators in Mexico who risked their life to make the truth appear. Thank you to the Supreme Court, and especially judges Arturo Zaldivar and Olga Sanchez, who analysed all facts, not only facts which were fabricated by the accusation to promote the police's ineffective anti-kidnapping action.

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I now want to apologize to have disturbed once more the quietness of some ice-hearted users who try to amalgamate a judicial case and politics. How people in a democratic country can think that justice is the same thing than politics: Are, in a democraty, executive power and judicial power separated or not? Is it a good thing or not?

I know that politicians may speak about judicial cases, as they sometimes speak about movies or DVDs. Does this mean DVDs are political? In fact most time justice is made by politicians, human rights are violated... In this particular case, Florence's trial had political implications between Mexico and France, and even inside Mexico. But I'm not interested to speak about those implications that were not at the origin of her release. I was concerned by Florence's fate, as it was clearly demonstrated she is innocent, and this sad story ends now happily, but after 2603 days of her life lost in jail.

I think that nobody here is obtuse to a point not to see the difference between a judicial case and politics, so I consider the efforts of some users to try to censor this thread just as a silly attack against someone who has not the "good opinion" on many other subjects that are discussed here. The fact that a human life was concerned was of no importance for those heartless users. The worse was to see one of those users, who seems to have absolutely no consideration for human life, write in this thread, about the death of a cat, "I know how hard it is to lose a loved family member such as Penny". Life of Penny was important, life of Florence was not worth to speak of her?

About Bad Father's post (which had at least one wrong statement on each sentence), and its approval by ateo357, it is obvious that those guys did not know 10% of Florence's judicial case , and yet they were sure she was guilty. Fortunately, the Mexican Supreme Court showed much more intelligence and decided to free her after analysing the 11000 pages of the file. As for the ignominious "She'll rot in a Mexican prison, just as she deserves", it is just a manifestation of the ugliest instinct of the human nature : "Kill them all and let God sort them out".

I'm sorry for Bad Father and ateo357, but Florence will not rot in prison as they wished. But I'm sure that many other innocents are still in jail, all around the world, each time their judges were as interested by the truth as are Bad Father and ateo357.

Nice to see the rules are being evenly enforced as always.