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Win8 without DVD playback support
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantkarstenp
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According to this Windows 8's Media Player will be without DVD playback support in most versions.
As freeware players are available, I guess this will not cause big problems for people wanting to play DVDs on their PCs.
And the DiscID will probably still be readable in DVDProfiler, regardless of PLAYER support.
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According to this Windows 8's Media Player will be without DVD playback support in most versions.

There are lots of other things to dislike about Windows 8.

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If Win 8 really doesn't come with a classic Windows Desktop, I'll skip it just like I did Vista.

WTH am I supposed to do with buttons* that take 1/16 of my 24" screen on a keyboard- and mouse-driven PC? I wear glasses but I'm not that blind.


*Microsoft wants to make the Metro design the only available surface even for desktop PCs.
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If Win 8 really doesn't come with a classic Windows Desktop, I'll skip it just like I did Vista.

Yea, but Windows 8 is a hybrid version to be as user friendly for touchscreen devices as well as desktops.

I wouldn't be surprised in Windows 10 (doubtful for Windows 9) isn't 99% touchscreen-based with the "desktop" style of Windows that we have gotten used to since Windows 95 pushed out completely. It would be a much fancier, touchscreen based version of Windows 1.0.
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I wouldn't be surprised in Windows 10 (doubtful for Windows 9) isn't 99% touchscreen-based with the "desktop" style of Windows that we have gotten used to since Windows 95 pushed out completely.

Microsoft should do away with the "Windows" name then, since the Metro interface doesn't really do windows at all.

I hope MS understands before it's too late that what works best for a small touchscreen device doesn't necessarily work best for a keyboard/mouse driven 24" screen desktop PC.

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If Win 8 really doesn't come with a classic Windows Desktop, I'll skip it just like I did Vista.

Yea, but Windows 8 is a hybrid version to be as user friendly for touchscreen devices as well as desktops.

I wouldn't be surprised in Windows 10 (doubtful for Windows 9) isn't 99% touchscreen-based with the "desktop" style of Windows that we have gotten used to since Windows 95 pushed out completely. It would be a much fancier, touchscreen based version of Windows 1.0.


The problem with that is: When they present such new versions they always praise the fancy things you can do with it. Just like Apple they are boys in grown-up bodies who are excited about their new toy. But most people have to actually work with their computers. They have tax software on it, payroll accounting software, enterprise resource planning software. I don't see any of these people working more efficiently with a touchscreen than they would with keyboard and mouse.

Years ago I was part of a team that developed software for tourism agencies. We had to build a data entering screen that looked exactly like an old DOS screen. Why? Because every employee of a travel agency can type into that thing blindly. They need not look at either keyboard or screen. They can look at their customer and type away. They type their three-letter airport codes which they know by heart. They don't want a fancy Windows dropdown where they can look for Los Angeles International Airport. They type LAX and that's it.

And that's true for other types of software as well. An actual touchscreen would slow these people down. A touchscreen doesn't have a physical marker on the F, J and 5 key so that you can type without looking. On a touchscreen you have to constantly check if your fingers are still over the "right keys".


I'm not anti-progress but it has to make sense. As the Americans say: if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Ironically, the OS's that Windows 8 is being designed to compete against, primarily handheld, can play media files right out of the gate without any nonsense.  I appreciate the fact that playing a DVD is different than playing an AVI, but the concept is still vaild.  The more difficult you make it, the more you just piss off your customers.  When you drop a disc in, you expect it to play.  You don't expect a bunch of crap getting in the way.

There's a part of me that wonders if this is being driven by media companies in some way.  After all, if you can generate a video stream on a computer, then you can very easily capture that same video stream.  It wouldn't shock me at all to find out that the movie studios pushed MS to drop DVD playback as a further deterrent to piracy.
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I appreciate the fact that playing a DVD is different than playing an AVI, but the concept is still vaild.

I haven't seen many mobile phones or tablets that can play DVDs.  I don't really think MS is giving desktop users much thought with this release.

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Ironically, the OS's that Windows 8 is being designed to compete against, primarily handheld, can play media files right out of the gate without any nonsense.

Apple-OS can't.
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Windows in any version sucks.

Every time Billy Gates comes out with a new version I always hope for the best but am always disappointed.

One of my biggest pet peeves: the lack of Blu-ray support. I'm sick and tired of not having the ability to write my recorded TV programs in Media Center to disc. Sure, you can write to CD-R or DVD-R, but have you ever tried to write a Baseball game or NASCAR race to a DVD-R? Can't be done...it's a 25GB file, at least!

You can't even play a Blu-Ray movie in Media Center. You need a 3rd party Blu-ray player software program like PowerDVD 11 or higher to do that.

And now comes Windows 8...another useless Windows version. I didn't even bother upgrading my Windows Vista 64bit to Windows 7...think I'm gonna bother with 8? yeah...right .
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I didn't even bother upgrading my Windows Vista 64bit to Windows 7

No wonder you hate Windows so much.

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...think I'm gonna bother with 8?

Do yourself a favor and upgrade to Windows 7 and stop there.  It still won't play Blu-rays, but it's much better than Vista, and Windows 8 (at least the consumer preview) is an abomination.

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Windows in any version sucks.

Every time Billy Gates comes out with a new version I always hope for the best but am always disappointed.

One of my biggest pet peeves: the lack of Blu-ray support. I'm sick and tired of not having the ability to write my recorded TV programs in Media Center to disc. Sure, you can write to CD-R or DVD-R, but have you ever tried to write a Baseball game or NASCAR race to a DVD-R? Can't be done...it's a 25GB file, at least!

You can't even play a Blu-Ray movie in Media Center. You need a 3rd party Blu-ray player software program like PowerDVD 11 or higher to do that.

And now comes Windows 8...another useless Windows version. I didn't even bother upgrading my Windows Vista 64bit to Windows 7...think I'm gonna bother with 8? yeah...right .


TBH I've always considered Windows an Operating System, everything beyond that is a bonus. If the windows programs that come with the OS are good, i'll use them. If not, i'll use something from another company.
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TBH I've always considered Windows an Operating System, everything beyond that is a bonus. If the windows programs that come with the OS are good, i'll use them. If not, i'll use something from another company.

Same here.
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TBH I've always considered Windows an Operating System, everything beyond that is a bonus. If the windows programs that come with the OS are good, i'll use them. If not, i'll use something from another company.

Same here.

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If you consider that Microsoft would have to pay a license fee for each sold copy of Windows the prices for the OS would rise, even when MS would get a volume discount.

Every customer whether he even wants to watch BR would have to implicitly buy a license.

And the big companies like Siemens would certainly not pay for something they don't even want on their work PCs.
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I'm sure Windows 8 will have "frills" that people love enough to think it's the best one ever that everyone else should get (and then after 4-6 months be bored with those features and it no longer matters) I'm sure that they will get rid of features that cause a small uprising and add helpful features that make it worthwhile to update.

That is true for pretty much all software that has been around for a decent length of time. I think that in an era when we have such easy access to so many brands of software -- particularly free and open-source alternatives -- we get complacent reasoning, "They should include everything humanly possible!" But all software has to have a balance somewhere along the line. You can't always just add, add, add, add.
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