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Television: The best and worst series finales? |
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| Blair | Resistance is Futile! |
Registered: October 30, 2008 | Posts: 1,249 |
| Posted: | | | | All shows must come to an end. But how well-done was the end? What series had your favorite and least favorite series finales?
The only criteria that doesn't count: "The series ended in a cliffhanger and no new season is being produced." I think that irritates anyone, so that's a little too obvious a reason.
(I didn't want to include season finales in this, but if you think season finales are better than series finales, then go ahead.) | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Hmmm..... for me...
Favorite: Charmed I like how this one not only finished off the loose ends... but also gave you glimpses into the futures of all the main characters.
Least Favorite: Angel Don't get me wrong... was enjoying every moment of it till how it ended. They knew well ahead of time that it was the end of the series.... and they plan a series finale that don't show the final fight!?!... You got to be kidding me! | | | Pete |
| Registered: January 27, 2009 | Posts: 181 |
| Posted: | | | | Favourite has to be Babylon5 Still brings a tear whenever I watch it.
And I have to agree about Angel losing the plot. | | | Last edited: by specise_8472 |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,747 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: Don't get me wrong... was enjoying every moment of it till how it ended. They knew well ahead of time that it was the end of the series.... and they plan a series finale that don't show the final fight!?!... You got to be kidding me! Well, if you call "three episodes" "well ahead". This whole "Circle of the Black Thorn" of the last few episodes was born of the notice that Angel (despite its ratings) would not get another year. As far as best endings go, I have to agree with 8472, Babylon 5. I also liked the endings of Star Trek: TNG, Leverage, Buffy, House, Chuck, JAG, M*A*S*H, Friends. In general I'm more in favour of an open ending. Not in the sense of a cliffhanger or an unresolved story, but more in the sense of what TNG or Buffy had and what Ood Sigma told the Tenth Doctor shortly before he regenerated into the Eleventh: Your song is ending, but the story never ends. I like to imagine that their lives go on in a similar way that we watched them over the last few years, which accounts for some shows being on the following list. Endings which I didn't like as much (and why). This doesn't mean I didn't like all of it, just the parts I'm writing down: Star Trek: DS9: It really was an ending. Too many people actually left the station for good and Captain Gates, erm I mean Captain Yates sits pregnant on that station while Sisko is becoming a prophet of the celestial temple. Alias: I really liked the irony of Arvin Sloane finally becoming immortal and then getting trappend in that cave for all eternity but the whole ending felt rushed and the whole five-year Rambaldi arc felt more like a countless number of McGuffins (a fate it shares with LOST). Battlestar Galactica (2004): It started so great with Baltar seeing Head-Six and it being somewhat mysterious but they, too, started to write themselves into a corner with Six suddenly seeing Head-Baltar, then the Opera House, Starbuck's death and miraculous ressurection. Even the Final Five were uneven because they didn't think it through who they could take without contradicting their whole "Cylons can't have babyies on their own" plot. And then the literal deus ex machina at the end? Heroes: With that show it wasn't just the ending. It practically went downhill from the first season finale and got worse with every season. The original showrunners had planned to exchange big parts of the cats for each season and tell a different story but Executive Meddling forced them to keep their characters and force them into ever more ridiculous and convoluted story arcs that made less sense each year. I guess the finale was more a coup de grâce than anything. Smallville: I love that show but I can see the flaws it has: the uneven writing, the out-of-character episodes. And that stayed true to the very end. All throughout season 10 Clark was told from all sides that he has to leave the past in the past so he can look to the future. And he does. He finally forgives himself for what happened to his father, he opens up to Lois and so forth. That's the narrative over the last season. The whole last season? Of course not. In the very last episode his mother is disappointed that he wants to let go of the farm and start a new life in Metropolis and letting go of the past is the worst thing every and ... And now the endings that I really HATE: Star Trek VOY: I never really like VOY all that much, it's the show that slowly brought me out of the Star Trek franchise. The plots were mostly boring and the characters had either no character at all (Chacotay, Harry Kim) or they behaved differently every week (mainly Janeway). It's not Kate Mulgrew's fault but Janeway was a case of PMS 30 days a month. Not because she was a woman but because the writers couldn't give her a set of rules the character would adhere to. One week the Prime Directive was the Holy Grail who mustn't be broken (hence Paris' 30 days in the brig), the next week it was more a guideline than an actual rule. And what would be next week remained to be seen. And then the ending. About 30 or so crew mates didn't make it home from their journey (i.e. between the penultimate episode and the final episode). It's not like the Enterprise wouldn't lose that many crew members in one encounter with the Borg or so. So Old!Janeway decides to travel back in time, bring advanced future weaponry with her and commit genocide on the Borg. And for that, she would get promoted to Admiral in Star Trek: Nemesis! LOST: I hate LOST and its ending. I never watched a single episode again after that finale. I knew it was going to end badly long before that and the showrunners had given warning. I just didn't know it was going to be that bad. So Men in Black wasn't allowed to ever leave the island even before he became Smoke. Why? Never explained. What "bad" would happen if Smokie actually left? Never explained. How could Hurley win the lottery with Jacob's numbers and what do the numbers actually mean? "Jacob has a thing for numbers". That's not an explanation, that's a punch line! How do we defeat Smokie? Jack climbs down into the same cavern that turned MIB into Smokie and pulls a friggin bath tub plug out of the island! Are your frakking kidding me?! The showrunners claimed it was all about the characters. OK, so what about the Flash!Sideways? House's finale was called Everybody Dies. This was the same only worse. We know now that eventually everyone's life comes to an end, even Hurley's as next keeper of the island. And when that happens they all meet at a holy place and go into the light. Wow. What a deep spiritual revelation that was! LOST is the exact opposite of what Babylon 5 was. Both started out with a mystery but one of the showrunners actually knew where he wanted to go and even when they threw a spanner in the works (like Jeffrey's and Talia's leaving) he found a way to continue telling his story. LOST just threw mystery upon mystery to keep viewers interested without ever intending to solve any of them and so they ended in a big clusterf*ck claiming it was about the characters (which they didn't do justice either) all along. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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| Registered: January 20, 2009 | Posts: 4 |
| Posted: | | | | Worst has to be the ending to Prison Break. They finished it perfectly on the 22nd episode (I think) then had to spoil that with a TV movie that I think wasn't needed.
My favourite ending would be Boy Meets World, grew up watching that show and it was the perfect ending in my opinion |
| Registered: January 20, 2009 | Posts: 4 |
| Posted: | | | | How did I forget about Star Trek: TNG !!! Can I change my mind to that for my favourite ending. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,747 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote: I also liked the endings of Star Trek: TNG, Leverage, Buffy, House, Chuck, JAG, M*A*S*H, Friends.
In general I'm more in favour of an open ending. Not in the sense of a cliffhanger or an unresolved story, but more in the sense of what TNG or Buffy had and what Ood Sigma told the Tenth Doctor shortly before he regenerated into the Eleventh: Your song is ending, but the story never ends. For example: M*A*S*H and Friends both had a closed ending. But for M*A*S*h it was uplifting because these people finally get to go home. To their family and loved ones. And the one guy who did everything to get out of Korea found his happiness there (Klinger). Friends in a sense had a downer ending. Sure Ross and Rachel are finally together and can be a family with Emma and Chandler and Monica are going to happy parents of the twins. But in the end it's still an era that has ultimately ended. They will never be in that appartment together, they will never hang out in Central Perks again. Monica and Chandler are living in the 'burbs. Now. Ross and Rachel and Phoebs and Whatshisname remain in the city. And Joey moved to Los Angeles. The fellowship has ended. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,879 |
| Posted: | | | | I'll go ahead and agree on TNG for having a good ending.
I must also agree that DS9 and Voyager both had bad endings, though I was never very fond of Voyager to begin with.
However, nothing tops the HATRED I have for the ending of Twin Peaks. Of course, the answer there is "what ending?" since it wasn't a finale, but the show wasn't renewed so it left us with that enormous cliffhanger. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. -- Thorin Oakenshield |
| Registered: March 17, 2007 | Posts: 853 |
| Posted: | | | | Wow, I started thinking and this is actually a really hard question. I think for those of us who enjoyed the show we all loved the M*A*S*H's ending. Mostly, because it was just as happy and as sad as the entire show. Father Malcahey looses his hearing, BJ leaves the huge "GOODBYE" sign in rocks for Hawkey, Margaret helps Charles get the job he wants and he looses his Chinese band.
Batllestar 2004 went to Hell about half way through season 4. The whole angels and God thing just really put me off. Killing Starbuck was completely messed up and the castaways mating with preverbal humans was just a waste.
Then we had Caprica, a show bad I gave up halfway through season one and it was canceled within an episode or two of season two. The reason that is sad is the show had so much promise.
I have loved ALL of the season finales of Castle. Even though they have been cliffhangers that upset you because it will be 3 months before you get to move on.
Drawn Together degraded to potty humor and gross outs in season 3 and never recovered. It being canceled was actually a blessing.
Get Smart ended well and was light hearted and fun. The introduction of the new Get Smart was a travesty.
I don't remember how the Muppet Show ended but as a kid I was devastated.
I don't remember how Night Court ended but it was fun while it lasted.
I think the Simpsons will be on long after my death.
Finally, writing all of this I realize I watched way too much TV. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,819 |
| Posted: | | | | Loved/Really Liked the end of: Buffy, Charmed, Desperate Housewives, 24, Ashes to Ashes, Being Erica, Being Human (UK), Dawson's Creek, Dollhouse, Medium, The OC, Quantum Leap, Smallville, Spooks, Stargate: SG1, Tenko, The Tudors.
Hated the end of: Angel, Life on Mars, Torchwood, 21 Jump Street, Veronica Mars.
Underwhelmed: Brothers & Sisters, Babylon 5, ST: Voyager, ST: DS9, ST: TNG, Highlander, Lost, Millennium, X-Files, Primeval (UK), Queer As Folk (US), Roswell, Sanctuary. |
| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,550 |
| Posted: | | | | Liked/Loved: Cheers Frasier Friends
Disliked/Hated: Seinfeld Wonder Years |
| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Posts: 302 |
| Posted: | | | | Try on the ending for St. Elsewhere. Wow! That was out there. Rather ridiculous. Same year I think was the ending for Newhart, which was very clever and funny in my view. |
| | Blair | Resistance is Futile! |
Registered: October 30, 2008 | Posts: 1,249 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree with the general views (the good and bad) on the different Star Trek series. Being the technical person that I am, though, I couldn't help but pick apart the plot of the final episodes of Star Trek TNG as faulty ("if the phenomenon gets bigger the further back you go in time, when they show up in the future and it isn't there, how could it be there when they go back a few hours later?") but the episode managed to do something that I myself often do with TV and movies which is think about what may have happened after the series ended.
Being the animation fan, I'll mention a few of those:
Avatar: The Last Airbender -- I loved the series, but I had mixed issues from the plot introducing the turtle that planted new ideas only at the very end. The wrap-up was very nice, and it still left you wondering about a few things (eg: Zuko's Mom) and thinking about the future.
The Legend of Korra -- I have to mention this one because, though it is now seen as "season one," the story was originally designed as a mini-series finale. Given the complexity of the multi-layered plot and sub-plots, the deus ex machina ending royally ticked me off, kind of in the same way that Avatar:TLA irritated me, though Avatar:TLA did not do so nearly as much.
Teen Titans -- There is a love-hate relationship with this one... enough so to make it one of my favorites. It was surprising to have such a sad ending for an animated series. It wrapped up a sub-plot but left the viewer with questions (that fans online pondered for years,) and it closed in a way that could have allowed for a new season without a cliffhanger.
Justice League Unimited -- Superman "shows how powerful he really is" vs Darkseid = Awesomeness
Although the JLU episode "Epilogue" is not a series finale, it is--in a sense--a plot finale for Batman Beyond. I hated that episode more than any other of the DCAU franchise because it was unnecesary and undermined several root ideas from Batman Beyond.
Naruto -- This worked as a very nice wrap-up for the present for many of the characters while, at the same time, talking about plans for the future (which many come to fruician in the follow-up series.)
Yu-Gi-Oh! -- The four-part finale did what I think all fans were hoping for, making it a perfect closer. | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. | | | Last edited: by Blair |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 489 |
| Posted: | | | | Best: M*A*S*H Newhart St. Elsewhere Andy Griffith Show Worst: Angel Lost Torchwood, (let's face it the whole Miracle Day was what bulls do in the field.) Yawn: Green Acres Night Court (one season to0 late.) Sienfield Friends It's Garry Shandling's Show Bobb | | | Do Cheshire Cats drink evaporated milk? |
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