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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorPantheon
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Hello all

Could anyone who has bought he following releases:

4030521731226 Germany Tootsie BD
4030521716735 Germany Sleepless in Seattle

tell me the following:

1. Are the subtitles removable
2. Is there a significant improvement on picture from DVD to BD?

I asked one of the contributors; but they haven't replied; so I thought I'd ask in here.

Many thanks 
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributoreommen
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I cannot give you an answer on 2. I do do not own these titles, but I did check what's in the online db.

On question 1:
Judging from the back cover, both are releases from a major movie distributor (Sony / Columbia), with a slew of subtitle languages to choose from. These are released in many countries with different covers but the same physical disk. With such releases I have always found the subtitles can be switched off as well. Fair chance you'll find the English ratings logo on the physical disk, meaning that it is the same disk as released in the UK. With both releases region free, it could even be the same disk as released in the USA.

In my experience --but this isn't a garuantee-- you only need to worry about fixed subtitles if it is a minor --i.e. local, independent-- distributor that only offers the original language (with subs) and the local language. In DVD-times they used to add to the back cover 'nicht ausblendbare untertitel' (subtitles cannot be switched off) or something alike. But as said, no such thing with these titles.
Eric

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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorPantheon
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Thanks eommen. I kind of knew what you said anyway; but thank you for taking the time.

I asked because I could see that people had already bought/contributed to these titles. So, an opinion of a fellow Profiler user would mean more to me than other sites/people.

However, despite a PM to main contributor, no one has replied. 

Guess I'll take the risk.
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The problem with German releases is that sometimes you have forced subtitles for text-content of the picture.

E.G.: There is a sign to be seen advertising some product and this gets translated by subtitle.
I find this extremely annoying. It doesn't occur all too often though.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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For me a safe rule of thumb is:
a. if there are multiple subtitle languages present (3 or more), the disk, DVD or BR, uses the standard mechanisms to switch or cancel subtitles. Via menu or the remote.
b. if there are only subtitles in the local language, serious chance these are fixed.

Applies to, at least, French and German titles. Rest of Europe, I do not know.

Some old style DVD's (my estimate produced before 2005) try to enforce a subtitle or language choice via the menu and block any effort to set it via the player's remote. If they forgot to add 'no subtitles' to the menu or your player cannot bypass this sort of programming, you're out of luck. Haven't seen such titles in recent years, though.
Eric

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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorPantheon
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Thanks to everyone who tried to help with this.

I'm going to stick my neck out though, and say how surprised I am that the 2 people who actually seem to own this title (the contributors) can't take a few minutes to let me know what they think of the picture quality.

The one thing I would never have called the DVDP community was unhelpful.

Ah well. Times change. 
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
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Quoting Pantheon:
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Thanks to everyone who tried to help with this.

I'm going to stick my neck out though, and say how surprised I am that the 2 people who actually seem to own this title (the contributors) can't take a few minutes to let me know what they think of the picture quality.



they may not have watched the film yet
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True, but it would take just half a minute to say so.

Another explanation might be that people might still be on holidays without access to their collection and/or email. I don't know about German holiday seasons (these are German releases, right?).
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorPantheon
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Well, one of them is currently contributing changes to this title and others. We don't ever see eye to eye, so that could explain his reluctance to help a fellow collector out.

No idea on the other person though.
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