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Goodbye Children...
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSpikyCactus
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Today I took a momentous decision.  Today is the day that I decided not to use disc level profiles for TV series.  No longer will I have ten million disc profiles for my “How I Met Your Superman Friends X-Files Smallville” box set.

As I deleted the first three today, it felt a little like taking a pet to the vets and not coming home with it afterwards.  Profiles need love and affection too and I’ve come to realise that I’d rather watch DVDs than endlessly try to propagate any changes made to the parents across their whole families.  I’ve nothing but admiration for those people who spend so many hours and hours doing this, but I just don’t have that amount of time to put towards trying to emulating them.

Please support me in my time of need.  The guilt is overwhelming... 
Do you ever find yourself striving for perfection with an almost worthless attempt at it?  Guttermouth "Lemon Water".  Also, I include in my Profiler database VHS tapes, audio DVDs, audio books (digital, cassette and CD), video games (digital, DVD and CD) and 'enhanced' CDs with video tracks on them, as well as films and TV I've bought digitally.  So I'm an anarchist, deal with it.  Just be thankful I don't include most of my records and CDs etc in it too; don't think I haven't been tempted...
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I keep child profiles for TV series, but they don't have any cast or crew in them.  I mostly keep them around just to track when I watch a particular disc.

If I didn't track disc viewing I probably wouldn't keep TV child profiles either.

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I use Post-it stickers on my TV boxes to keep track of where I am. Ergo no disc level profiles for me. No guilty feelings, but then I never had any disc level profiles to begin with.
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I'm with Gunnar here.

In fact I never even saw the point of child-profiles for TV-Shows.
For those who want to track viewing-events they are inaccurate since a disc (usually) contains more than one episode, for all others it just bloats the database.

The only thing that in this regard would make sense (to me) would be a child-profile for every single episode. Sadly DVDProfiler doesn't really support this, except by creating manual profiles which have to be kept local.

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Now do you feel better already?
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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No Child Profiles for television series here.
Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect]
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Quoting Lewis_Prothero:
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I'm with Gunnar here.

In fact I never even saw the point of child-profiles for TV-Shows.
For those who want to track viewing-events they are inaccurate since a disc (usually) contains more than one episode, for all others it just bloats the database.

The only thing that in this regard would make sense (to me) would be a child-profile for every single episode. Sadly DVDProfiler doesn't really support this, except by creating manual profiles which have to be kept local.

EDIT:
Now do you feel better already?

^This!
It would be a different thing if there were profiles for every episode, but that would be overdoing it a little bit.
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. Resist it, and your soul grows sick with longing for the things it has forbidden to itself, with desire for what its monstrous laws have made monstrous and unlawful."
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Don't be sad Cactus
I never used child profiles for tv shows, never saw the use for them. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSpikyCactus
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Thank you all.  I’m feeling a bit better now. 

I’m going to slowly remove them as I watch them and stop downloading new ones, so it will probably take me years to purge them all.  It was auditing Season 1 of “South Park” that finally pushed me over the edge.  There were lots of existing differences between the parent and the disc profiles; and the parent itself needed so many changes made to it that the thought of transferring all of these to the rest was just too horrible to contemplate.  I enjoy auditing DVDs because it’s fun to do and I can indulge my special interest in the music used, but just moving/copying data about from one place to another is a chore.

I do have the feeling that for some reason I’ll suddenly want them back at some point in the future though.  It’s like when you spring clean and get rid of all the stuff you’ve been hoarding for years and then wish you hadn’t disposed of.
Do you ever find yourself striving for perfection with an almost worthless attempt at it?  Guttermouth "Lemon Water".  Also, I include in my Profiler database VHS tapes, audio DVDs, audio books (digital, cassette and CD), video games (digital, DVD and CD) and 'enhanced' CDs with video tracks on them, as well as films and TV I've bought digitally.  So I'm an anarchist, deal with it.  Just be thankful I don't include most of my records and CDs etc in it too; don't think I haven't been tempted...
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Quoting SpikyCactus:
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...There were lots of existing differences between the parent and the disc profiles; and the parent itself needed so many changes made to it that the thought of transferring all of these to the rest was just too horrible to contemplate...

If you ever decide to start using them again, let me know, I can help you with what I consider the least cumbersome way to accomplish it.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantBlair
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No TV show child profiles here. If they exist without the data existing in a parents profile, I merge all of the children into the parent. This has only happened to me once, though.
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The only child profiles I tend to keep are for those huge box sets of Complete Series such as Married with Children. Otherwise, nope no children for tv season sets.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSrehtims
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Just for kicks using a duplicate db I removed the TV Series Children.
I could do this with one operation because since TV Series and nest profiles came to the profile I initiated a set of flags to handle them.

for Box Sets
-  Parent Level One (Outer Level)
-  Parent Level Two (TV Series within a set of TV Series)
- Child (DVD Level)

for Television
- Misc.
- Mini Series
- Movie, Play, Opera
- Series

By selecting the Child and TV Series tags I could flag all the TV Series Child profiles and remove them with one operation. I t took about 30 min. for the profile to remove them.

Thus reducing the number of Owned profile from 21075 to 10836.
I did this only on the Owned list.

With all the haggling over what goes in every profile field, titles etc. I seriously thought about doing this.
I seems I will never get get all the of my profiles correct by my standard or by anybody else, I have just about given up trying.

For the db I wrote for laser discs, I tracked only the Title, UPC, Cost. Maybe something else, one of these days maybe I fire up my old 84 and check it out. I remember some place i have list of the output.
But then things were simpler in those days
We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
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Seeing as when I audit something, I do it 100%, the thought of trying to audit an entire season of a TV show, or god forbid, an entire series, at once would be so daunting that I would never even start. Child profiles give me a manageable amount of data to work with in one sitting. That's why I keep them.
Hal
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Quoting scotthm:
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I keep child profiles for TV series, but they don't have any cast or crew in them.  I mostly keep them around just to track when I watch a particular disc.

If I didn't track disc viewing I probably wouldn't keep TV child profiles either.

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This.

...and this is exactly the use I see for them. I also have no cast, crew or hardly any other detail in them.

If we could track disc-level watched events in parent profiles, I'd get rid of them as well.
Achim [諾亞信; Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorThe Movieman
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I used to have child profiles for movies but cut that out a few months ago.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorVoltaire53
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Another one here who has never used disc level profiles for TV shows; in fact I actively dislike them because it stopped us/me using the old (approved) method of using the first disc in a TV season to create the child profile for the Season in multi-season box sets (quite often, in the UK at least, each season of a 'complete series' boxset will have the EAN replaced with a 'Not to be Sold Separately" label) now I often have to make each season Manual and keep it local (or at least use separately released season data and modify the release/covers etc and lock a lot of the profiles down)
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