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DVD Going The Way Of VHS In 2016 |
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Registered: April 3, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 631 |
| Posted: | | | | Prepare yourselves to explain what "The Cloud" is to all your elder family members because DVDs are going the way of the dinosaurs. Variety has alerted us to PricewaterhouseCoopers's new study that shows box office and digital revenue is projected to rise steadily over the course of the next five years, while the sales of DVDs--as well as other disc formats--are predicted to fall drastically. This study posits that the sale of streaming video titles will exceed the sale of physical DVDs as soon as 2016. Which means, DVD's days are numbered. DVD sales saw a 28% drop last year, making $12.2 billion. This total only is expected to reach $8.7 billion by 2018, a time at which electronic home video (streaming titles or digital downloads) are anticipated to be the highest-earning element of filmmaking. Within five years, digital video profits are expected to leap from 2014's projected $8.5 total to $17 billion. Basically, PwC projects that by 2018, digital video will be earning distributors more profits than movies' theatrical box office will. However, PwC isn't calling theatrical releases obsolete--not just yet, anyway. Despite some doomsayers insisting the rise of digital video is luring people away from movie theaters, PwC's study declares ticket sales will climb 15.9% over the next half decade, but that will be in part because of ticket prices rising. By their estimate, the cost of a movie ticket will rise from an average of $8.89 to $9.81 by 2018. Notably, both distribution to China and 3D releases were meant as ways to bolster box office performance, but both are being met with challenges. As far as China is concerned, studios are confronting several obstacles, including censorship, a cap on American films accepted annually, the rise of China's domestic film industry, and rampant video piracy. Regarding 3D, Hollywood's obstacle is essentially that audience enthusiasm for it is dwindling. So, studios are now responding by offering 20% less 3D titles than they did in 2011. While the way consumers buy movies is changing, the desire to buy versus rent is still a strong one in this digital video climate. And the plus side from those producing titles is that there is far less overhead that goes into making a movie buyable on digital services as opposed to printing and publishing scads of DVDs and cases. Ultimately, we're by and large investing differently in our love of movies. Now instead of rushing out to get an adored movie on DVD or Blu-ray, more and more are just buying a digital file with a click of a button on iTunes or Amazon. As I write this, I look up at my personal collection of DVDs, which fill nearly a whole wall in my living room. To think, five years from now this will be as laughable a site as the walls of discarded VHS tapes found at any thrift store. http://www.cinemablend.com/new/DVD-Going-Way-VHS-2016-43349.html | | | http://www.mulligansmovies.com/ |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,245 |
| Posted: | | | | One has to wonder about digital ownership. If you buy a digital download can the studio block you from watching it? Say how Disney loves to put their animated movies in the vault. The studio could say that you own the digital file but not the right to watch it when you want to. Could this force rentals upon viewers too?
The studios failed with the DIVX format in the early days of dvd, but it looks like they may have won the battle in the long run. When movie ownership is back in the studios hands.
Call me old fashioned, but I don't accept that I own something unless I can physically touch it. |
| Registered: April 3, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 631 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree if I can touch a DVD I believe that I own it | | | http://www.mulligansmovies.com/ |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 20,111 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote: Call me old fashioned, but I don't accept that I own something unless I can physically touch it. Same here. Whether it's music or movies, I still haven't purchased more than a handful of digital releases online. And that was only because they were digital-only releases, and not even available for renting. If movies ever go "digital download" only, and the studios stick exclusively to some outrageous expensive selling model that mimics physical...then I'll just rent the movie when I feel the desire to watch it. I just don't have any compulsion to "own" a movie that I can't physically possess. I honestly feel no desire to spend $15-$20 on just 0's and 1's, when I could spend far less and just rent/stream those 0's and 1's when desired. Artwork has also always been a grand thing on physical formats, and with digital formats you just can't really display or collect them. Thankfully, the music underground – at least in the Metal world – is still largely favoring the release of physical copies for purchase. Vinyl is even coming back in force. | | | Corey |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | My mom and I prefer to read the same genres for the most part.
Both she and I have a Kindle.
But we only buy e-Books when we're sure the other one will not be interested in that particular book.
Everything else is still bought as good ol' fashioned hardcover and paperbacks and loaned to each other whenever we fancy it. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,946 |
| Posted: | | | | I believe this is true for mainstream. Special interest markets have their proper audience, which are still buying physical product. | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
Chris |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 868 |
| Posted: | | | | An other problem i see with digital only is region coding. As an Dutch citizen i would no longer be able to buy US or UK releases which are released earlier, in better quality, or at all Just look at how long it took the Dutch distributors to release Arrested Development for example, compare so Criterion releases to the same title released in Holland. Or browse through my collection and see the titles still not released here in Holland.
As long as that problem continues to exist physical product will always be my choice.
And as others have stated, if i can't own physical copies i will either use Netflix more, or rent as buying will be useless,
Paul |
| | Blair | Resistance is Futile! |
Registered: October 30, 2008 | Posts: 1,249 |
| Posted: | | | | As far as the companies are concerned, I don't think that they care whether you "bought a digital copy" or just "rented a digital copy." That may, in fact, be part of how they are making these projections.
I still buy physical CDs, though I know that digital downloading and cloud storage has taken a chunk of that as well. Yet, even though people can go to iTunes and buy 5 songs for $5 and listen to them forever, I still see some people go into places like the bowling ally here and spend $5 week after week to play the same songs over and over again on the jukebox. What could have cost only $5 may instead cost $60 over a few months, and that makes the RIAA very happy. (not a perfect example, but you get the idea.)
I am not 100% against digital downloads, but that small percentage in favor comes from the idea of being able to download and keep the file on my hard drive with the ability to make backups. My issue is knowing that they want to lean toward an all-cloud world where you could spend a fortune on movies, and if the site goes belly up, so does your investment. It was taken from you with no legal recourse because you give them permission to do so when you agree to the ToS for using their site. The same already happens with eBooks and phone/tablet apps: if a law changes and a book is banned in your country, it is removed from your cloud even though you supposedly bought it. | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. | | | Last edited: by Blair |
| Registered: June 15, 2012 | Posts: 428 |
| Posted: | | | | With digital only releases we are going to get stuck with needing multiple accounts to get the movies you want (depending on provider), constant harassment from these accounts to subscribe to certain unrelated services, make you have to do silly things like the old 'like us on facebook' stuff, make you ensure whether you purchased the digital download for the right thing eg: your internet connected BD/DVD player, or internet connected receiver, or tv, or computer or a combination (different pricing model) and then of course when you go through everything to actually watch the movie you will have to wait while "accessing advertisements applicable to your location..accessing advertisements applicable to your profile...accessing digital company promotions and advertisements" and so on. And then of course, when the internet connection drops out 1/3 way through the movie you'll have to go through the entire process again to watch said movie.
No thanks, I want a hard copy I can just stick in the player and press play. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,493 |
| Posted: | | | | I saw all this coming years ago ( well maybe 18 months ago ) with the advent of digital downloads thru either Netflicks Hulu or your own on demand service provider .., the idea of buying a $20+ movie to watch over and over seems to be outweighed by leasing or renting a 48 hour window to watch maybe once or twice with your family for as little as $5.99 in HD .. I have, (as well as all of you,) hundreds of movies that I bought and maybe watched only once some as much 7 + years ago.. and never came back to it unless the urge or desire would allow me the right to get it on the player within minutes and with very little searching to find and display said title .., My Netflicks account is currently sitting at 7.99 a month 24/7 in 480P with 1080p sourcecode ( very happy with picture quality and 5.1 sound ., (and also Netflicks Canada recently sent me an email to say that because I have an account in good standing- my monthly rate will NOT be increased to $8.99 for another two years .. ) I love digital video downloads over hard copies as it can and does save me a lot of $$$$ to put into other ventures - such as Laptops / GPS devices / and smartphones .... | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
| Registered: March 17, 2007 | Posts: 853 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote: One has to wonder about digital ownership. If you buy a digital download can the studio block you from watching it? Say how Disney loves to put their animated movies in the vault. The studio could say that you own the digital file but not the right to watch it when you want to. Could this force rentals upon viewers too?
The studios failed with the DIVX format in the early days of dvd, but it looks like they may have won the battle in the long run. When movie ownership is back in the studios hands.
Call me old fashioned, but I don't accept that I own something unless I can physically touch it. Even worse since you brought up Disney I will use them as well. What happens when something appears in the digital file that was not meant to be there or something some exec find objectionable. They just replace that part of the file or delete it all together and it is like it never happed. What is worse is if it happens to be a part of the film you enjoy, it is still lost. Also what about vaulting? Yes you bought it, but you knew it would only be available for a "limited time" Sorry we left out that was even if you bought the file. |
| Registered: March 31, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,798 |
| Posted: | | | | Then we go on the Black marked and bye DVD/Blu-Ray movies at the Pirate dealer. we must have the drugs. |
| | Blair | Resistance is Futile! |
Registered: October 30, 2008 | Posts: 1,249 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting ruben.: Quote: Then we go on the Black marked and bye DVD/Blu-Ray movies at the Pirate dealer. we must have the drugs. *cheezy, fake Mexican accent* "Hey maaaaan. I got what'choo want right here. Nothin' but the hard stuff. C'mon... you know you want doze episodes of Candid Camera never released to the public. I make you a good deal, OK?" | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. |
| Registered: March 10, 2009 | Posts: 2,248 |
| Posted: | | | | Yep and good luck ever getting even a quarter of the content that was pressed on DvD. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting ShinyDiscGuy: Quote: Yep and good luck ever getting even a quarter of the content that was pressed on DvD. Lucikly, I never owned a quarter of the content that was pressed on DVD. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| | Blair | Resistance is Futile! |
Registered: October 30, 2008 | Posts: 1,249 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting iPatsa: Quote: Quoting ShinyDiscGuy:
Quote: Yep and good luck ever getting even a quarter of the content that was pressed on DvD.
Lucikly, I never owned a quarter of the content that was pressed on DVD. Everything now on DVD still likely exists somewhere digitally outside of pressed copies. Most would not create DVDs and then destroy the hard drive copies. When we hit an age of "all digital" and companies are not trying to sell the same films five times under different formats, we will likely see the rest of that content appearing for sale. It is a much bigger deal prepping a movie for sale on a DVD than to make it available on demand through a streaming or digital copy service. | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. | | | Last edited: by Blair |
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