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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributormreeder50
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Of the 2082 DVDs (not Blu-rays) I have, I'm going to get rid of probably 3/4 of them. I'm not going to trade or sell individually because I don't want to be trying to get money and then shipping them all over the place. I'm going to take them to MovieStop and get what I can in store credits. Unless someone wanted to buy all of them at once.

I will be replacing them with Blu-rays as funds permit. Why you ask? With all the 1080p movie channels including onDemand and Netflix a lot of these movies are already available in HD. I will be keeping selected movies, which are not available on Blu-ray yet and all of my TV series.
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Getting rid of them to buy new stuff, I can understand.

Getting rid of them to replace them with Blu-rays, answer to yourself (and I mean that literally, you don't have to reply here):

How many of these 2,082 movies are you ever going to watch again at least once?


I'm still buying (romantic) comedies and stuff on DVD, beause I - most likely - watch any of them only once. DVDs have become my replacement for a cinema ticket.

Only when I'm actually going to care for the movie - or when it has visual effects - I'm going for the Blu-ray.

I'm not getting rid of a huge part of my collection because deep in my heart I'm a hoarder* and can't get myself to give them up. But I wouldn't upgrade them either, I rather buy new movies for the money.


*Fun fact: in German the pseudo-English word "messie" (from "making a mess") is used for a hoarder
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I'm with Karsten on this one.

It's your life, your money, and your choice, but as I see it, if you are willing to get rid of 1,500 DVDs only to SLOWLY rebuild the collection into Blu-ray then they are not nearly important enough to be replaced with Blu-ray. Let's say you sell 1,500 and with what you make from them are able to buy 300 Blu-rays, that means you still have 1,200 Blu-rays to buy (which may take several years to do so) before even getting to where you originally were, not to mention other movies that you will want to buy that you never owned before while rebuilding your old collection.

If you only want to see a shelf full of lovely Blu-ray cases, go buy a bunch of blu-ray cases and but the DVDs in them.


That's just how I see it, though.
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I wish I had the guts to do what he is doing. My collection is smaller than most, but there are still a substantial number of titles I haven't seen once, much less - again. Nonetheless, I dream about having as many as possible available in the best format. Then, what to do with the excess?

My guess is that the new purchases will reflect his priorities and lean towards new titles instead of replacements except for true favorites. So, it's a kind of self-regulating method. But you have to take that first step - and I just can't! 
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Of the 2082 DVDs (not Blu-rays) I have, I'm going to get rid of probably 3/4 of them. I'm not going to trade or sell individually because I don't want to be trying to get money and then shipping them all over the place. I'm going to take them to MovieStop and get what I can in store credits. Unless someone wanted to buy all of them at once.

I will be replacing them with Blu-rays as funds permit. Why you ask? With all the 1080p movie channels including onDemand and Netflix a lot of these movies are already available in HD. I will be keeping selected movies, which are not available on Blu-ray yet and all of my TV series.


Go for it!

I love having a large collection.  Why?  Because I can watch what I want to watch when I want to watch it.  I don't have to worry about it expiring on Netflix or some other service. 

I still buy some DVDs if they are cheap enough, and aren't available on blu-ray.  I can see the logic in the other responses, but in the end you should do what you want to do.
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I am at a point that I am looking very hard at ripping my 2000 or so DVD's to a Local NAS device. I am at 5 995's and need a 6th. And my BR's are getting close to 300 and there isn't a chance I am buying a 7000 given the lack of support from Sony and the up front cost.

The issue is that 25-30TB of NAS equipment is going to be spendy up front, then you have to worry about Backing up that data somehow off site. So what to do....

Personally I just got a nice new TV, and I still will buy DVD's vs BR for some stuff. the BR Player I have upconverts the dvd's well and the 995 does a passable job as well on DVD's

Do whats right for you, buy really why rebuy what you already have?

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Of the 2082 DVDs (not Blu-rays) I have, I'm going to get rid of probably 3/4 of them. I'm not going to trade or sell individually because I don't want to be trying to get money and then shipping them all over the place. I'm going to take them to MovieStop and get what I can in store credits. Unless someone wanted to buy all of them at once.

I will be replacing them with Blu-rays as funds permit. Why you ask? With all the 1080p movie channels including onDemand and Netflix a lot of these movies are already available in HD. I will be keeping selected movies, which are not available on Blu-ray yet and all of my TV series.


I can actually understand this.  I went through a spell, where I bought alot of DVD's of thing I might be interested in.  I did end up watching them, but I would bet you there are 200 to 300 DVD's that I have no desire ever to watch again.

I have been replacing a number of DVD's with BD, only because I came in high def a little on the late side.  I am only replacing the ones I want.

I will probably go through my collection this summer, and thin it down some what.

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Don't misunderstand...I love my large collection, but the truth is, the Blu-ray replacement is going at a slower rate than I would like. I'm 66 and don't have the time it will take to acquire them all. This will at least allow me to get a few hundred rather quickly and since I love re-auditing this will keep me busy, along with whatever new ones I collect.

I'm keeping all removed profiles in DVDP in 2 separate collection lists: Sold DVDs and DVDs to Replace. The ones in DVDs to Replace are the ones I will find and replace as quick as I can. The other list will serve to remind me what I used to have and eventually will replace.

I'm not a big fan of compression which is why I have not gone to ripping to a NAS drive. Plus, I like having physical media on shelves.
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I am also running out of space and doing more ripping these days.

- Ripping is not necessarily compression. An ISO file merely transfers the digital contents of a DVD/BD ROM to a container on another medium. It is "lossless." You can even put multiple DVD ISOs on a BD data disc.
- There are software and hardware players that will render the ISO in full glory, at least with the quality of most home hardware DVD players. I can't say about the high stuff, like Oppo - maybe there is an advantage to using hardware. I am very happy with PowerDVD on the PC, and the amazing KDLinks media player. I do admit, that even the old CX995V Sony changers offers stunning video and audio. I doubt that the typical PC can duplicate that functionality, but I think the gap is closing with the new HDMI and optical audio links.
- As far as onsite/offsite backup, I just use the DVDs themselves. Since you can't sell the DVDs after ripping (or shouldn't), the physical media itself serves as my backup. The main purpose of multiple hard drive copies is just to avoid the time inconvenience of re-ripping in case of a hard drive failure.

I have 6 Sony changers of various types. Eventually, I want to get down to one of each, mostly so I have a device to test LoadDVD with, but I will replace the others with NAS copies of ripped media, and let the media serve as backup, maybe stored in some kind of moisture protected boxes in the basement.
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AFAIK blu-ray players are no longer allowed to support ISO playback. Media players, however, are a different story.
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I have never seen the point of clogging up space on HDD for DVDs of which I have the hard copies. How many times in a year am I going to watch the same movie? Once? Twice? If so, is it really a great hardship to go into the library and pull the hard disc off the shelf?
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AFAIK blu-ray players are no longer allowed to support ISO playback. Media players, however, are a different story.
I'm not aware that they ever did.

I have a fire wire-connected  Sony VGPXL1B2, 200 disc changer, that I converted to Blu-Ray. When it was working, it could access up to 6 DVD ISOs / BD data disc, for 1200 DVD images accessed via my PC running Profiler and LoadDVD. Maybe someday I will try to repair that machine. It was sweet.

For me, using changers and hard drives is not only about convenience. I'm one of those that doesn't like to spend a lot of money on furniture to organize and display DVDs. I want to take the media out and slide it into a changer slot, or rip it to a hard drive and then stuff the case back into a closet somewhere.
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AFAIK blu-ray players are no longer allowed to support ISO playback. Media players, however, are a different story.
I'm not aware that they ever did.


My Oppo definitely did, until they had to remove that feature through new firmware.
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AFAIK blu-ray players are no longer allowed to support ISO playback. Media players, however, are a different story.
I'm not aware that they ever did.


My Oppo definitely did, until they had to remove that feature through new firmware.

Ahhh ... I see.

Man, how on earth did they convince you to let them do it? 
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Using the old firmware the player wouldn't play some newer blu-ray releases, so I had to update.

But rest assured, I still have an older player which still plays ISO files. 
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My collection got huge enough that I needed an alternate storage means and I decided to go the NAS route. Using UNRAID which supports mix-n-match drives, directory consolidation across drives, parity, and many other features including docker, KVM, & XEN support for Virtual Machines (VM's requires the v6 beta version).

My home built server has 11 drives in it, seven 4TB drives, two 3 TB drives, and a 4 TB parity & cache drive. I have 748 movies with a mix of blu-ray & DVD for 11.6TB, TV episodes for 2.8TB, full incremental backups of multiple computers on a two week cycle, and all kinds of other data utilizing a total of 22.9 TB of space with room for 11TB of additional data. Drives that aren't in use can be optionally spun down for power savings.

I run Win8 in a VM for my mail & ColdFusion server and Apache web server in a custom docker container I built. I also have Docker containers for MySQL and Plex Media Server. PMS also allows my family to watch my movie collection at their own homes.

UNRAID also supports swapping out drives for larger ones and the extra space is immediately available after the drive is rebuilt from parity. With support for up to 23 data drives, you have the potential for 184 TB of space.

I'm not affiliated with UNRAID, I'm just a very satisfied user.
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